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Stylin · Feb 21, 2005, 02:17 PM // 14:17

Thanks guys.

Took us FOREVER to get the timing right because of TS delays. Ended up "You go on 1 and a half, I'll go on three" 1 2 3 YAY IT WORKED! lol

I didn't have fraps installed or I would have taken it from first person rater then having a guildie take it. ;( Next time, I promise!

Reaper2k3 · Feb 21, 2005, 02:18 PM // 14:18

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Originally Posted by Vermilion Okeanos

Hmm... I dont think that is capoeira that female monk is doing... not like it at all, if u base it on the kick... MANY MANY martial does it... why i say it is not capoeira? because they do a double fist punch the one that go punch above and below at the same time with both hand... and that punch is very very eastern... and also... i have seen too many people do that very very similiar (cant seem to remember that clearly) kata in martial art teams...

lol, previous month i was still like... too bad monk in GW only look eastern with no kung fu or anything... well, they prove me wrong...

oh yea... I wish female elementalist got some kind of feather cap and arm wing or something to do that dance... like las vegas...

I say it is capoeira because i recognize the moves and they are all capoeira: the jump and sweep kick especially. (alot of capoeira moves in WWF Smackdown). The male monk does something i dont recognize though, i think its something monks do -_-

either way if some one wants to research this and get back here to say what they are, go ahead, im not wholly sure, just guessing

Raedar · Feb 21, 2005, 04:17 PM // 16:17

Definitely not Capoeira. Her moves (and the male monks) were variations of classic Chinese kung-fu (although I believe the female version was a weapons form originally). Capoeira has more of a rhythmic motion.

Of course this is only my opinion, but here is why I have at least some knowledge in the area. My martial arts background is primarily karate. I'm currently working on my thesis in Art History, more specifically dealing with the global and cross-cultural transfer of the arts via means of warfare and conflict. I've done several graduate level papers on the cross-cultural development of the martial arts, concentrating on the root forms and changes made as the forms travelled. Again, I'm by no means the absolute authority on this, but I feel confident in my assessment in this particular case.

Uthar · Feb 21, 2005, 04:25 PM // 16:25

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Originally Posted by Reaper2k3

I say it is capoeira because i recognize the moves and they are all capoeira: the jump and sweep kick especially. (alot of capoeira moves in WWF Smackdown). The male monk does something i dont recognize though, i think its something monks do -_-

either way if some one wants to research this and get back here to say what they are, go ahead, im not wholly sure, just guessing

I recognize the moves, too. It's probably just something they smacked together. We have those moves, too, in Kung-fu. Capoeira did not invent them. We don't know who did, but Capoeira's a fairly young art (relatively).

It reminds me of Drunken, to me... Especially one of the 8 Immortals, but I still can't remember her name.

Narcism · Feb 21, 2005, 04:28 PM // 16:28

Pulp Fiction being my favorite movie, the female Warrior took the cake.

Vermilion Okeanos · Feb 21, 2005, 09:32 PM // 21:32

Hmm, I still dont understand how is that close to capoeira than chinese kung fu unless capoeira borrow so much from chinese kung fu kata... I mean, I dont see capoeira sitting down in the middle... oh well

According to some source, india had the oldest form of martial art... Chinese didn't have shaolin before buddism were introduce there... Other form of chinese martial art were invented after the shaolin. Which made sense that India might have been the one who first invented martial art. However, even thou chinese didnt invent martial art... they were the most developed in it.

Raedar · Feb 21, 2005, 11:08 PM // 23:08

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they were the most developed in it

This is really not true. Speaking of the development of martial arts in an academic/tactical sense, the Japanese are probably the fore-runners in the development. As for the aesthetics, there are as many arguments here as there are styles. Many different variations have beautiful, graceful and seemingly impossible elements. A person's taste in this is the only true judge on who leads the way in the development of martial art performance (although I'm split between Chinese Kung-fu weapons forms and various forms of African styles, including Capoeira and the Zulu Izinduku).

As for the main part of your discussion, there is also some argument that kung-fu is a direct descendant of pankration. While I'm not sold on the idea, there is some interesting factual evidence that lends it's support to the theory.

I doubt anyone would argue that there is any one origin of martial arts. They are as complex and varied as the peoples of this planet. Man's inherent drive towards conquest and domination (don't take that in a negative context) has lead to the development of these forms of fighting in almost every culture that has existed for any extended period of time.

Tur713 · Feb 26, 2005, 08:42 PM // 20:42

I really liked the river dancing mesmers and the male elementalist is just hilarious (I would spent almost 1/8 of my play time last beta making mine dance) But I think my favorite is the female warrior dance.

Dovi the Monk · Feb 26, 2005, 09:02 PM // 21:02

dances are nice
i remember at one point i had like 4 or 5 female elementalists dancin around me

the monk dance is pretty cool, but id have to say my favorite is the male warrior, i like the disco stuff hes got going on, back to the 70's there

i dont know about that ranger dance, not really the style id get from them, idk, mesmers do hve some rpetty cool dances too